Orbán called for an agreement with Russia on a new security architecture, “To provide security, sovereignty for Ukraine, but not NATO membership for Ukraine”. 

“We are living in a very dangerous moment,” he told Tucker Carlson. “The 3rd world war could be knocking on our door,” he said, adding, “We have to be very, very careful”. “And that’s my message always to America, as well as NATO summits, be careful with that”, he said. 

“If any western country would send boots on the ground, that would mean a direct war between the West and Russia,” Orbán added. “And we are in a 3rd world war, immediately. So it’s a very dangerous moment now.” 

Orbán blasted President Biden’s administration and its approach to the war in Ukraine.

Carlson said to Orbán, "The Biden administration described you in the United States, in the media, as a fascist. Are you worried about being crushed by the United States?"

Orbán replied, "I’m not the favourite politician of the liberals, unfortunately. But nobody is perfect. There are certain things which are more important than “me”, than my ego. Family, nation, God. Liberal originally meant freedom. But now in Europe, liberal means that you are enemy of the freedom. We are ally to the United States and we are worse treated than the Russians".

He added, “The Russians are far stronger, far more numerous than the Ukrainians. NATO are far stronger than the Russians are. The Russians are not strong enough even to beat the Ukrainians just now."

He continued to say that the only path to ending the Russian war in Ukraine would be the reelection of Trump to the US presidency.

“Trump is the man who can save the Western world. That's my personal conviction,” said Orbán.